Board index Board index Board index
It is currently Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:17 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:42 am 
Offline
Doesn't Pay Bets
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 18, 1997 1:00 pm
Posts: 5015
Location: Washington D.C.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-20012040-235.html

Time to release that 3DS!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:25 pm 
Offline
Posting God
Posting God
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 01, 1998 12:00 pm
Posts: 15404
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
March 2011, just in time for the year end :-)

_________________
I was there on that fateful day, were you?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:04 am 
Offline
Posting God
Posting God
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 01, 1997 12:00 pm
Posts: 11145
Location: Canada
It largely has to do with the $793 million they lost on the exchange rate with falling western currencies vs. rising Eastern currency. 3DS would be a good idea to come out soon, and also to step up anti-piracy campaigns. Right now lots of revenue is being lost, especially visible in Europe.

Piracy is a major impediment on the handheld industry. Just look at the PSP market, for an example. Otherwise, the handheld market would probably be as big as the home console market, or bigger.

_________________
I like strangling budgies, I'm what you call an animal lover,
I like North Korean Sherry, didn't you kill my brother?
[b]Objection![/b]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:41 pm 
Offline
o_O
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 1997 12:00 pm
Posts: 1275
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Julius Seeker wrote:
Piracy is a major impediment on the handheld industry. Just look at the PSP market, for an example. Otherwise, the handheld market would probably be as big as the home console market, or bigger.


If you believe in the fallacy that every pirated game (or a good majority of them) would have otherwise resulted in a sale if piracy wasn't available.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:36 pm 
Offline
This Would Be an Essay If Don Wrote It
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:59 pm
Posts: 4491
Oracle wrote:
Julius Seeker wrote:
Piracy is a major impediment on the handheld industry. Just look at the PSP market, for an example. Otherwise, the handheld market would probably be as big as the home console market, or bigger.


If you believe in the fallacy that every pirated game (or a good majority of them) would have otherwise resulted in a sale if piracy wasn't available.


So the moral of the story is that if you're cheap enough any kind of piracy is justified.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:19 pm 
Offline
Posting God
Posting God
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 01, 1997 12:00 pm
Posts: 11145
Location: Canada
Oracle wrote:
Julius Seeker wrote:
Piracy is a major impediment on the handheld industry. Just look at the PSP market, for an example. Otherwise, the handheld market would probably be as big as the home console market, or bigger.


If you believe in the fallacy that every pirated game (or a good majority of them) would have otherwise resulted in a sale if piracy wasn't available.


Huge R4 sales in Europe, an increase in illicit downloads, and a 45% decline in DS software sales in 2009, clearly point to piracy ruining the market.

_________________
I like strangling budgies, I'm what you call an animal lover,
I like North Korean Sherry, didn't you kill my brother?
[b]Objection![/b]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:58 pm 
Offline
This Would Be an Essay If Don Wrote It
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:59 pm
Posts: 4491
Most people just aren't so cheap to the point where they'd rather do without the goods if piracy is impossible. If you're that adamant then you probably don't really care about the good in the first place (after all, you can do without it) so you wouldn't be looking that hard to pirate it either.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:28 am 
Offline
Posting God
Posting God
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 01, 1998 12:00 pm
Posts: 15404
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Don wrote:
Most people just aren't so cheap to the point where they'd rather do without the goods if piracy is impossible. If you're that adamant then you probably don't really care about the good in the first place (after all, you can do without it) so you wouldn't be looking that hard to pirate it either.

That's why those claims of "billions and billions" lost by the hardware manufacturers due to piracy are severely exaggerated. They're assuming because someone downloads a copy of DQIX that a) they didn't purchase it afterwards, b) would have purchased it new if it wasn't available to d'load in piracy, and c) had no intention of buying it used instead of new (although they consider used games theft as well, that's a different battle). That's certainly not going to be the case with the majority of people. B) wouldn't apply to most people, a lot of those people who pirate just wouldn't buy otherwise IMO

_________________
I was there on that fateful day, were you?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: First loss for Nintendo in 2 years
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:34 pm 
Offline
This Would Be an Essay If Don Wrote It
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:59 pm
Posts: 4491
I think you'll be surprised how many people are weak enough that if piracy was not an alternative they'll buckle down and buy for it instead and just post somewhere about how the stupid greedy industry is robbing them blind but still buying it anyway.

Of course you can argue the price point of an item might matter too but looking at piracy on the IPhone over stuff that sells for $2 seems to suggest no price is too cheap where piracy is not an alternative. Most of the piracy estimates do not assume every piracy is a lost sale. There's some metric they use to decide how many pirated copies equals one real sales loss. Obviously how accurate that is is up to debate, but the amount loss to piracy is not 0% nor is it 100%.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB

Localized by MaĆ«l Soucaze © 2010 phpBB.fr